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The media's probably flogged this dead horse long enough, but for those of us who tend to rob the grave when the topsoil's still fresh, here're some extra swings at the carcass.

McCain said:

"And the belief that somehow communications and positions and willingness to sit down and have serious negotiations need to be done in a face to face fashion as Senator Obama wants to do, which then enhances the prestige of a nation that's a sponsor of terrorists and is directly responsible for the deaths of brave young Americans, I think is an unacceptable position, and shows that Senator Obama does not have the knowledge, the experience or the background to make the kind of judgments that are necessary to preserve this nation's security."

Now personally, this quote alone makes me ready to stand behind the possibility of an Obama turn in foreign policy. Here are the thoughts that provoke me towards feeling this way:

1. The fact that a nation as strong as the United States has allowed its "brave young"ins to be slain by nations filled with those whom we have always been willing to kill ourselves (purely on nationalist principles) says to me that prestige is an honor such "terrorist" nations clearly deserve. If someone can play on your level, you ought to sit down with them for a little chat--especially when you have similar interests and conflicting strategies. Sidenote: I don't believe it is in the conscious interest of any Middle Eastern government to promote a divide between the East and West. In my view we are capitalists so that trade and bartering, monetary or otherwise, may replace the old, primal urge to violence that centralized power uses to start wars.

2. In the world's eyes--and this is foreign policy we're talking about here--our own prestige would be enhanced by opening talks with anyone, whether they're a nation that harbors terrorists, or they're terrorists themselves. Talk is cheap, conflict's expensive and you motherfuckers spend my tax money. Do my pocketbook--and my local economy--a favor and let your lips do the work for as long as possible before jumping into shit. Please. It's simple math.

3. When did Obama ever speak against "strong" talks, a term often thrown around when old guys with a military background discuss middle east negotiations, and why are "communication", and a willingness to achieve it, unacceptable? Man. That was really some cold shit to say, John. Also, you used to think talks were necessary in the middle east.

4. I don't hate McCain and he might not screw up our country, but seriously, I for one am tired of the rhetoric his generation has roped us up with for the last half century. Y'all grew up during the cold war and you still haven't recovered from the veil of bullshit you grew up behind. A post is on its way quoting legendary and award-winning science fiction author, post-structuralist academic and all around fascinating person Samuel R. Delany. His opinion on the relationship between American nationalism and simple rhetoric (versus "difficult" rhetoric) is so illuminating that you just gotta toss a pair of mirror shades on to read the shit.

5. Security. Security. Security. You know what a whole lotta talk about security says of the people who're so fervently talking about it? INSECURITY.

6. If this offends the intelligent Republicans out there, apologies for the blanket statement in advance, but I just don't believe that any your leaders have fulfilling enough sex.

Comments

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nemione
May. 20th, 2008 06:29 am (UTC)
And they say the intelligent protest is dead!
two comments
!. why don't you hate McCain - it is a strong word granted - but he is a buffoon in line for a job where the chimps have already shat so much on the chair all he will be able to do upon taking the seat is smear it around a bit, hoping to create a picture we all believe is pretty. That alone is not a reason to hate him, rather the fact that he knows this will be his job and still thinks the feacal flowers will be art.
2. How on Gods Great Earth are bible belt mid wetsern anally retentive paranoia pedaler ever going to have fulfilling sex!!
bensinclair1
May. 20th, 2008 10:38 pm (UTC)
Hm. I guess I don't hate McCain because he has a history of working with Democrats on policy negotiation, and he seems far less partisan in attitude than much of his own party. He's also been open about the problems within both parties in the past. Plus my standards have been lowered by the last eight years. His independence is greatly changing with his current dependency on party money, which sucks. And he's going to say a lot of stuff he might not have otherwise because it's an election year...as to the amount of chimp shit on the throne, yeah, that's true, he's just going to inherit the momentum of former Republican thinking and become more and more constrained by it...so...if he doesn't screw things up worse, the sources of his constraints will.

Will stiff-necked bible thumpers with a love for implanting paranoia into their congregations ever screw well enough to realize the folly of masculine overdeterminism? Sounds like a great reality TV show. I'd watch.
joe_and_minnie
May. 30th, 2008 01:36 am (UTC)
Lordy
Joe-Whoo wee, Minnie...lookit how they speak around here! To eachother, no less...

Minnie- I know I know...it's surprisin' folks still up 'n walkin straight. Hey, Joe?

Joe- Yes, baby?

Minnie- Remember the time you mouthed off to me on the river bank, sweetie?

Joe- How could I forget. That life guard who revived me turned out to be a booker. We got fo' or five gigs outta that one, baby...
Minnie- Thems was the days...
stephnwi
May. 20th, 2008 10:59 pm (UTC)
amen.
scoffield
May. 25th, 2008 01:15 pm (UTC)
I think.... Mc Cain is so mad.... It'll be The worst day in American History... When McCain is a President.... The worst day in World History.....I think....
bensinclair1
May. 25th, 2008 07:44 pm (UTC)
it's the election year juggling...the lobbyist problem. you're out there representing so many interests that you look crazy. mccain sounds desperate at the moment. in that position, you're trying to avoid making claims that may contradict not only each other, but the very interests that serve as a backing, or supply, for those claims.

an excellent example of this is when mccain went on ellen degeneres's show and couldn't articulate his respectful disagreement with her. he held his position, which is fine, but ellen's position was presented with reason and backbone, whereas mccain was mute on the values holding his stance together. there are a lot of reasons for this to happen. but it's sorta obvious there was rhetoric he wasn't willing to bring into that particular arena because of the conflicting interests of his party.

it will indeed be a day of jadedness and pessimism if mccain wins.
marylowery2
May. 27th, 2008 10:03 pm (UTC)
I'm a republican...but find myself very confused by some of McCains actions. I dont see any of the candidates as great presidents right now. It sort of scares me.
joe_and_minnie
May. 30th, 2008 01:25 am (UTC)
Hello Ben
I was just sayin' to myself...lordy lordy...look at the language y'all use around here! I admire very much what you're sayin'. And I understand politics'll put the devils tongue in ya mouth...but answer me this young man...do ya'll get offended just tryna understand eachother round here?
And how do folks get results with all a this cursin?
With all do respect, young sir...I'm old.
Teach me something new...
bensinclair1
May. 30th, 2008 07:19 am (UTC)
Re: Hello Ben

Not only will politics bring out the devil's tongue--they'll put the primate back in your step.

I like to think of curse words as the place-holding zero in a multiplication problem. Sorta. When you're adding, you don't have to write the zero down because it doesn't affect the actual sum, but you do anyway because it neatens your process. It locates a problem-solver's ritual. In politics, curse words--which I'm so used to hearing during the day that I'm numb to their offense--locate instances of passion, however mild.

(cowbell and kazoo interuption)
joe_and_minnie
May. 30th, 2008 06:15 pm (UTC)
Re: Hello Ben
Yeah I hear ya...it's like listenin' to Ma Rainey go off when she's in one of her moods. Cursin' is like punctuations, I guess. And lordy do we got somethin' to curse about these last 8 years, I reckon.
(s' cuse me for a second, Mr. Ben...
What in the HELL do you want ,Joe?! I told you, you backwards ass country good fuh nuthin'...it's in the OTHER room TWICE now...)
Sorry, I hope to speak more to ya...but I gotta deal with somethin' right now.
You are doin right by me, Mr. Ben

-Memphis Minne
bensinclair1
Jun. 1st, 2008 08:13 pm (UTC)
Re: Hello Ben
long live vaudeville, memphis.
joe_and_minnie
Jun. 1st, 2008 08:26 pm (UTC)
Re: Hello Ben
smoke and mirrors ben, smoke and mirrors
same trick every time
they call it politics round here
you think it's all this silly stuff...and then you wake up one mornin'
and every thing around is a little different than before,ben

you can call it vaudville if ya like
just pay attention to the old timers
we already know what's happened

joe
sasha18loves
Jul. 19th, 2008 01:19 am (UTC)
this is so strange
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